At the moment, we're shedding just reams of data that are increasingly being consolidated under the umbrellas of Google, Amazon, and Apple.

I think that what we're probably looking at as a consolidated, unified record.

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This is Amy Webb, and she is professor at NYU and the founder of the Future Today Institute

and the author of a great new book called The Big Nine.

And the Big Nine, I don't usually start with books, but in this case, the book is really

interesting, and it's actually what I want to talk about, because it's related to AI and technology and the Americans and the Chinese, since those are the only players that really matter.

The big nine are the big nine companies, six American, three Chinese, no other companies.

You even think, like maybe I'll throw in like a Samsung, I'll throw in, like, something European?

Yeah, so I mean, it doesn't mean that there aren't other players in the space.

The three Chinese companies are Baidu, Alibaba, and Tencent the bat.

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