Those are not just little stingers.

They are compact, but they deliver some power, certainly enough to Hans Mal game.

But in the U.S., they're probably just looked at it as like, oh, my God, what is this thing?

Yeah, I mean, can you imagine being a bad guy and you get crossbowed?

I'm Ryan Gresham.

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Welcome into Gun Talk Nation. On Gun Talk Nation, we talk about guns, but we really talk about all sorts of things.

I always say we're very broad in what we cover.

And one of the areas that's a fun subject matter, and I always love talking to this guy, Val Gamerman from Pyramid, or as a lot of us know it, Pyramid Air. You guys are the air gun experts, the air gun people.

And air guns is this crazy category of technology and fun.

And I always have fun when we talk and when I'm looking at your website.

But Val, welcome in, man.

Oh, thank you for having me.

And it's always good to talk to you and meet you virtually like this,

where I personally bump into each other at an event somewhere.

100%. So, I mean, everybody knows, I think a lot of people know Pyramid Air because it's been around

for a long time.

I know you guys rebranded to just Pudermid. Do you, I mean, what was the story there? Yeah. So we've always been

known as Pyramid Air, Pyramid Air guns, the website. And then we did make a decision a while ago

to expand into outdoors and did not want to change the website.

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