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The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Bidirectional Naming: Session 287 with Caio Miguel

The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Matt Cicoria

Science, Mental Health, Skinner, Behaviorism, Behaviorconsultant, Aba, Behavioralpsychology, Health & Fitness, Appliedbehavioranalysis, Autism, Acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy, Fba, Social Sciences, Verbalbehavior, Bcba, Functionalassessment, Discretetrial

4.8648 Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2025

⏱️ 93 minutes

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Summary

As Juliet asks, "what's in a name?" in that Shakespeare play every 9th grader reads, I too ask the put the same question to today's guest, Dr. Caio Miguel.

Welcome to Session 287 of the Behavioral Observations Podcast! Literary allusions aside, in this episode, Caio walks us through the concept of Bidirectional Naming, and its implications for research and practice.

In this conversation, we use his 2016 paper, Common and Intraverbal Bidirectional Naming, from the Analysis of Verbal Behavior, as a springboard for this discussion.

One of the things that I took away from this conversation is to be more careful using terms like tacting, naming, and labeling interchangeably. In this podcast, you'll learn why these distinctions are important.

We also talk about why terms like receptive and expressive labeling aren't conceptually systematic, and should be avoided in the Behavior Analytic literature. If that sounds like a hot take to you, please tune in to hear the rationale.

Caio is also presenting at this year's Verbal Behavior Conference, which is taking place March 27-28, 2025, both in Austin, TX, as well as virtually through BehaviorLive. If you like to nerd out on all things verbal behavior, this is your event. And during our conversation, Caio provides a preview of what he plans to talk about at the VBC.

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0:13.3

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0:15.4

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0:18.4

And so if you want to get these episodes again earlier than everyone else and commercial

0:23.6

and commentary free, if you will, just the conversation itself, go to patreon.com

0:29.0

forward slash behavioral observations.

0:31.5

All right.

0:32.0

On to this show.

0:33.2

As Juliet asks, what's in the name in that Shakespeare play every ninth grader reads,

0:38.8

I too put the same question to today's guest, Dr. Cayao Miguel.

0:42.9

That's right.

0:43.6

Welcome to session 287 of the Behavioral Observations podcast.

0:48.3

Literary allusions aside, in this episode,

0:51.3

Kaya walks us through the concept of bidirectional naming and its implications for research and practice. In this episode, Kaya walks us through the concept of bidirectional naming and its implications for research and practice.

0:57.7

In this conversation, we use as 2016 paper, common and intraverbal bidirectional naming from the analysis of verbal behavior as a springboard for this discussion.

1:08.3

One of the things I took away from this conversation is to be more

1:11.7

careful using terms like tacting, naming, and labeling interchangeably. In this podcast, you'll learn why

1:18.3

these distinctions are important. We also talk about why terms like receptive and expressive

1:23.9

labeling aren't conceptually systematic and should be avoided in the behavior

1:27.8

analytic literature. If that sounds like a hot take to you, please tune in to hear the rationale in more

1:32.9

detail and hopefully it'll make more sense. Caya is also presenting at this year's verbal

1:37.8

behavior conference, which is taking place March 27th through 28th in 2025, both in Austin,

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