Joe Biden is the next president of the United States.

That's according to an Associated Press projection.

Securing Pennsylvania Saturday puts Biden above the all-important 270 electoral college threshold

to win the race.

And the vote counting that continues has Biden ahead in Georgia,

Arizona, and Nevada.

In the popular vote, Biden currently leads President Donald Trump

by more than four million ballots cast.

With this win, the Democratic ticket also makes history.

Joe Biden becomes our oldest president,

and Kamala Davy Harris will become the first black,

first Asian American, and first female Davy Harris will become the first black, first Asian American,

and first female vice president of the United States. This is an Axios election 2020 special.

I'm Naila Boodoo. We're going to spend the next few minutes talking about what happens next with two

journalists who have been reporting about all of this since the beginning. Hans-Nichols covers

the Biden campaign for Axios,

and Jonathan Swan is also a political reporter at Axios watching the Trump administration.

First, let's just start with your initial reaction, Hans. Well, they had a theory. They had a case,

and they won. And that's all that matters, right? We don't know where Joe Biden will take the oath of

office. It will be on the front of the Capitol. but he'll take the oath of the office if this all passes legal muster and all

the lawsuits are thrown out. They had a theory from the beginning that the electric in their own

party was more moderate, that the electorate in the country was in the center, not the far left.

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