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Biden Says the F Word

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🗓️ 9 September 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

President Joe Biden finally defined the MAGA movement for what it is, a form of “semi fascism”, and in turn ignited a debate about whether he was unwise, technically incorrect, or plain old offensive. The “F word” is complicated - it’s bandied about and stretched beyond meaning in some circles while others refrain from it to avoid seeming hysterical. Yet these elaborate rules and rubrics to distinguish what is fascist get in the way of clearly identifying the threats to our democracy. Historian and writer of the Lucid newsletter Ruth Ben-Ghiat joins to talk about this crescendo in the fascism debate and what history has taught us about Trump’s brand of semi fascism.

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One of the strangest experiences I had in college stretched out over several weeks in, I think, my senior year,

1:21.0

when I was enrolled in a class called The Philosophy of Fascism.

1:27.0

This was mostly an elective class for me. I was a student in the departments of physics and astrophysics,

1:32.0

so I didn't really need to take a big political science class on the intellectual roots and supposed ideological boundaries of Italian fascism.

1:41.0

But this was just a couple years after 9-11, at the apex of the with us or with the terrorists, politics of the Bush presidency.

1:49.0

It was Berkeley, California, where I think it's fair to say the term fascism gets bandied about and stretched beyond meaning from time to time.

1:58.0

And the class was understood to be something like a counterpoint to supposed progressive hysteria about the rise of fascism in America and elsewhere.

2:08.0

The professor was an Italian fascism scholar, and I think a sympathist named James Greger,

2:15.0

and people who had taken it in the past didn't exactly recommend it, but they said it was a trip, so I tried it out.

2:23.0

And they were right. I ultimately dropped out of the class for a number of reasons, but my takeaway at the time, now filtered through 20 years of blurring memory,

2:33.0

was that Greger had drawn up a bunch of elaborate rules and rubrics to distinguish his Italian fascism not just from George W. Bush's new conservatism, but from all the failed despotisms of the 20th century.

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