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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Biden reflects on presidency while giving Lawrence an exclusive Oval Office tour

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

NBC News

Policy, Msnbc, Politics, President, Washington, Congress, Government, Senate, News

4.45.9K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: Donald Trump pardons people who attacked police on January 6. Also, Trump signs a slew of executive orders after his inauguration. And former President Biden reflects on his presidency during an Oval Office tour. Andrew Weissmann, Eugene Robinson, and Norm Ornstein join Lawrence O’Donnell.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Well, thanks to Luke Russer, we are reminded of the words of President Ulysses S. Grant,

0:07.7

who said, Luke posted this on threads, which is where I've been spending so on my social media time,

0:14.0

before getting really straightened out with blue sky tomorrow, so I can follow Rachel and everyone else who's moved over there.

0:21.6

Ulysses S. Grant said, President Grant said,

0:24.3

if we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence,

0:30.4

I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's,

0:35.7

but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side and superstition,

0:42.9

ambition, and ignorance on the other.

0:48.1

President Ulysses S. Grant, General Grant, during the Civil War, the war that he won, making that prediction

0:57.7

to us.

0:59.9

Well, at least civility is back in the White House.

1:05.6

Press Corps.

1:07.9

Tonight, the White House Press Corps behaved exactly the way they should always behave.

1:15.2

But it's the way they only behave with Donald Trump.

1:19.4

Reporters were allowed in the Oval Office while Donald Trump was signing an unconstitutional executive order, among other things,

1:26.6

and signing pardons for his supporters

1:29.4

who tried to beat police officers to death.

1:33.6

And reporters asked questions while Donald Trump was doing that.

1:37.7

The reporters never yelled.

1:41.1

They never even slightly raised their voices.

1:46.4

The reporters never talked over each other or interrupted Donald Trump.

1:51.9

They allowed Donald Trump to pause as long as he wanted to before answering the question or in the middle of an answer of a question, just

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