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Pushback with Aaron Mate

Biden, Putin restore talks as DC hawks promote New Cold War

Pushback with Aaron Mate

Pushback with Aaron Maté

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4.7594 Ratings

🗓️ 19 June 2021

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

At the Geneva summit, President Biden of the US and President Putin of Russia announced the restoration of their ambassadors and agreed to new talks on vital issues. Meanwhile in Washington and major US media outlets, Russiagate-addled hawks promoted increased confrontation. James Carden analyzes the talks and the bellicose US media response. "US media outlets seem to be egging biden on to take a harder line than than the President wanted to," Carden says. "It's a product of the last several years of Russiagate hysteria. But it also shows who make up the American press really don't know that much about Russia or foreign policy." Guest: James Carden. Former State Department adviser and the executive editor for the American Committee for US-Russia Accord. He writes at https://thescrum.substack.com/.

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0:00.0

Welcome to pushback. I'm Aaron Mate. Joining me is James Cardin. He is a former State Department

0:09.2

Advisor, the executive editor of the American Committee for U.S. Russia Accord, co-founded by the late

0:16.6

Stephen F. Cohen, and he writes at the scrum.substack.com.

0:21.7

James, making your pushback debut.

0:24.4

Very excited to have you.

0:26.0

Well, thanks for having me, Aaron. Nice to see it.

0:28.5

So let's talk about the Biden-Pudin summit, a lot of hype around it.

0:32.3

What were your key takeaways from their relatively brief meeting?

0:41.3

Well, my key takeaway is that it could have been worse. There are a number of pretty good things that came out of it.

0:46.3

The first thing I guess I'd point to was the overall tone between the two presidents.

0:55.0

It wasn't marked by overt hostility,

0:59.3

nor kind of slavish deference.

1:03.0

I was just on a Zoom conference sponsored

1:06.9

by the Quincy Institute in which former governor Jerry Brown said that both

1:14.2

presidents acted as professionals and as human beings and that was a significant

1:19.0

step forward and I think Governor Brown is right about that so there's tone and

1:23.1

then there were some actual in the parlance of the foreign policy bureaucracy, some deliverables

1:31.5

that came out of it. The first and probably most important was the announcement of a bilateral

1:38.2

strategic stability dialogue. Both presidents said there was an agreement to begin negotiations around issues of

1:47.0

cyber. Both presidents repeated the pledge that President Reagan and Prime Minister, no, excuse

1:58.0

me, President Gorbachev made in 1980, 1985 at Geneva in which they declared that a nuclear war can never be won and should never be fought.

2:10.6

And finally, both sides agree to send back their ambassadors.

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