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The Ben Ferguson Podcast

Biden DOJ Subpoenaed MY Phone Records, Spied on 20% of GOP Senators, plus Lunch w Trump in the Rose Garden

The Ben Ferguson Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.94.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

1. DOJ Subpoenas and Alleged Political Surveillance

  • Senator Cruz reveals that Jack Smith, Special Counsel under the Biden DOJ, subpoenaed his phone records as part of an investigation into events surrounding January 6th.
  • Cruz was not initially listed among the nine Republican senators whose records were obtained because his phone provider, AT&T, refused to comply with the subpoena, citing constitutional protections under the Speech and Debate Clause.
  • The DOJ reportedly obtained records from Verizon for other senators, including Marsha Blackburn, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and Lindsey Graham.
  • Cruz and Ferguson characterize the subpoenas as a politically motivated fishing expedition, lacking criminal justification.

2. Concerns Over Abuse of Power

  • Cruz argues this represents a dangerous precedent of the executive branch spying on legislative members.
  • He calls for hearings and investigations to uncover who authorized the subpoenas and to prevent future abuses.
  • The operation is referred to as “Arctic Frost”, which Cruz likens to a modern-day Watergate.

3. Meeting with Donald Trump at the White House

  • Cruz recounts a lunch with Trump and other Republican senators, where Trump showcased renovations to the Rose Garden and plans for a new ballroom.
  • The upgrades are privately funded, not taxpayer-funded, yet have drawn criticism from Democrats.
  • Trump also distributed personalized gifts (e.g., challenge coins, golf towels, M&Ms) and joked about naming a room the “Monica Lewinsky Room.”

4. Government Shutdown

  • Cruz discusses the ongoing government shutdown, blaming Democrats for refusing to vote to reopen.
  • He notes that only three Democrats have supported reopening efforts, despite impacts on TSA agents and air traffic controllers.
  • He predicts that retiring Democrats may eventually break ranks to end the shutdown.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:05.4

Welcome, it is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, and Senator, we've got to break some news here.

0:12.3

Apparently, I was spied on because I texted you during a period when you were spied on,

0:18.7

which means I was spied on.

0:20.5

I feel like my name should be in

0:22.2

this a little bit here. We thought it would happen. It came out. It's real. Congratulations. They

0:28.1

really wanted to see what you were texting. And I think they're going to be highly disappointed.

0:32.5

I'm not going to lie. Look, I think my texts are pretty damn amusing. And I'm sorry,

0:37.4

you have no sense of humor.

0:39.6

I need to text you more about when Ole Miss doesn't win a football game.

0:44.7

But you're right.

0:46.3

The news broke in the last couple of days that the Biden Department of Justice,

0:52.8

Jack Smith issued a subpoena spying on me, trying to get

0:57.5

information about my cell phone, about communications I was having, about voicemails, about text,

1:04.3

all the information they could from my subpoena. That now makes nine Republican senators

1:09.5

that the Biden-D-O-J issued subpoenas and tried to get their cell phone records.

1:15.4

We're going to break that down.

1:16.3

We're going to talk about what an extraordinary abuse of power this is, what a nakedly political action it is.

1:23.6

We're going to break all that down for you.

1:25.0

We're also going to talk about, I spent about two hours

1:28.8

with President Trump at the Oval Office today at the White House. He invited all the Republican senators

1:34.3

to have lunch with him. We're going to talk to you about everything that went on and what's going

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