from WNYC Studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday, January 29th.

We start the week in South Carolina, where the Haley versus Trump Republican primary battle just got real now that Haley is actually

going after Trump more aggressively than before. But wait, that election day isn't until February 24th.

This Saturday, South Carolina will be the Democrats first in the nation primary, with President Biden hoping to rack up a big win against almost no competition

to show he's still got turnout power. But wait again. Biden has a primary? Did you even know that? Can you even name one person running against him?

We can and we, and we will,

and we will play a clip of the one main person. And with us now is Associated Press National Politics Reporter Meg Kinnard, who lives in and is based in South Carolina. Her main scene

setter article over the weekend was headlined, Biden returns to South

Carolina to show his determination to win back black voters in 2024. Now, the majority of the Democratic

primary electorate in South Carolina is black voters. So here's an example of how Biden is campaigning to them. This is from a Biden campaign

event in the state on Saturday night. He has just cited the $300 a month checks program that the

government had for families with children during the height of the pandemic.

And here's what it did.

It helped cut black poverty in half for black children in America.

Because no child in America, you'd ever go hunger, ever.

When Trump pushed black small businesses at the back of the line and the pandemic funding,

I moved into the front of the line. And today, black small business at the back of the line and the pandemic funding, I'm moving to the front of the line. And today, black small businesses are starting up at the fastest rate in 30 years.

President Biden at a Democratic Party dinner Saturday night, the APs, Meg Kinard is with us now. Meg, I realize this is your

very busy season. So thanks for giving us some time today. Welcome to WNYC. Absolutely. Brian,

it's good to be with you. Thanks so much for having me. Your article's angle that the president is

determined to win back black voters who are less enthused than they were in 2020.

How are some ways that you're seeing that loss of enthusiasm in South Carolina and over what issues?

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