Biblical Marriage, Negotiations, & Make Out Sessions | Joby Martin | Episode 400
The Speakeasy
The Girl Named Blake
4.8 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 28 January 2026
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
In today's episode, Blake sits down with Joby Martin, lead pastor of Church of 11:22, for a candid, practical, and surprisingly fun conversation about biblical marriage.
This is a must-listen—especially with your husband.
Together, they talk honestly about leadership, submission, responsibility, and why keeping score in marriage quietly kills intimacy. Pastor Joby brings clarity (and humor) to what Scripture actually calls men to be—and how that leadership is meant to free wives, not burden them. From encouragement and repentance to negotiation, gratitude, and yes… make out sessions—this episode covers what healthy, Christ-centered marriage looks like in real life.
They also unpack:
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Why men need other godly men to grow
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How wives can encourage change without nagging
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The danger of swinging from passivity to toxic "alpha" masculinity
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Why gratitude, affirmation, and humility go further than criticism
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How communication and negotiation build trust and intimacy over time
This conversation is grounded in Scripture, full of wisdom, and deeply hopeful. If you want a stronger marriage, deeper respect, and more joy at home, start here.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the Speakeasy podcast. |
| 0:02.0 | I am so pumped to bring you today's episode. |
| 0:05.2 | I'm going to be honest. |
| 0:06.3 | I don't really get nervous about interviews that much anymore, but I definitely had a little |
| 0:10.1 | like, okay, I want to me, I want this to go well. |
| 0:13.6 | There's a lot of admiration on my end for my guest today, who is Pastor Joe B. Martin. |
| 0:20.8 | He is the pastor of the Church of 1122 in Jacksonville, Florida. |
| 0:24.9 | And my admiration for him is really because of my husband. |
| 0:29.4 | Pastor Joby is my husband's favorite, I think he would say. |
| 0:32.8 | And I have seen over the last year of honestly kind of being under his digital discipleship, |
| 0:38.1 | an incredible amount of growth and change in his relationship with Jesus. |
| 0:44.0 | And then naturally, that just impacts the rest of your life. |
| 0:48.2 | And so when I got the opportunity to sit down with him on the podcast, I was like, |
| 0:52.0 | I really need to do this justice. |
| 0:55.3 | And I feel like it went, I feel it went really well. We had a really incredible conversation |
| 0:59.0 | about things like leadership, authority, submission. You know, there's multiple mentions |
| 1:04.7 | of like making out and negotiation and how we can do this well and how we can break out of this toxic cycle that a lot of |
| 1:14.0 | marriages tend to get caught in of comparison and keeping score and bitterness. |
| 1:19.3 | And he's just one of the guys, you know, and really incredibly easy to talk to. |
| 1:25.3 | And he doesn't, he's talking about these things in terms that like this |
| 1:28.8 | would probably be a really great episode to listen to with your husband honestly this entire month |
| 1:32.9 | has been a month of episodes that would be great to listen to with your husband and I would |
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