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Well, welcome to another edition of Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk, the voice you trust for the family you love.

I'm Roger Marsh, and we are representing, of course, the broadcast division of the Dr. James Dobson Family Institute.

And with Mother's Day, just a couple of days away, a perfect opportunity for us to have a conversation about the fact that moms are the bedrock of the family. And Rhonda Stoppy is our guest today here on the program to talk about her brand new book called Moms of the Bible, Life-changing Lessons for the Fearless, Flawed, and Faithful, and that link is up at jdfi.net. Rhonda Stoppy, welcome back to Dr. James Dobson's family talk. It's good to have another day to converse with you.

Yes, I love that last conversation.

If you guys missed it, go back because it was so good.

Rhonda has delineated motherhood biblically into three different categories.

Fearless moms, flawed moms, and faithful moms.

And we didn't spend a lot of time on the faithful because the flawed and the fearless just were so engaging and so compelling.

But I wanted to not gloss over this because one of the biggest challenges that a lot of women

are facing today is the fact that you've got a lot of single parents and you do have a lot

of single again parents who wind up getting married.

And when you get into that step family relationship, that's not always easy,

regardless of the ages of the kids. I mean, my kids, well, all of our kids were adults when Lisa

and I got married seven years ago this December. And quite frankly, you know, it's been a rough go in

some areas, a little bumpy. One of the influences that you talk about in your book,

Moms of the Bible, is the unlikely influence of a stepmother. Who is the stepmother you're talking

about and why is her influence so important? Oh, do I love this story. So I have to do a little

backtracking and say when I was 10 years old, I was at a youth camp in the Santa Cruz Mountains in California

near the ocean. And there was a teacher that came down to the fire pit every night and he

unpacked the story of Esther from Scripture. And as a 10-year-old little girl, I was captivated

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