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The Bible For Normal People

[Bible] Episode 321: H. Daniel Zacharias and T. Christopher Hoklotubbe - Native American Biblical Interpretation

The Bible For Normal People

The Bible for Normal People

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.73.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2026

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode of The Bible for Normal People, Pete and Jared talk with Chris Hoklotubbe and Danny Zacharias about biblical interpretation through an Indigenous American perspective. They explore how cultural identity, history, and social location shape the way people read Scripture, and why Indigenous perspectives challenge assumptions many Christians take for granted. Together, they invite listeners to read the Bible more thoughtfully, remaining aware of their own context and open to voices that have too often been overlooked. Show Notes → http://thebiblefornormalpeople.com/episodes/bible-episode-321-h-daniel-zacharias-t-christopher-hoklotubbe-native-american-biblical-interpretation Watch this episode on YouTube → https://youtu.be/WxojcdyBgoI ********** This episode is sponsored by Factor. Head to factormeals.com/normalpeople50off and use code normalpeople50off to get 50 percent off and free breakfast for a year. Eat like a pro this month with Factor. New subscribers only, varies by plan. 1 free breakfast item per box for 1 year while subscription is active. ********** This episode is brought to you by Brooklyn Bedding, which knows sleep isn’t one-size-fits-all. That’s why they offer mattresses for every body, every sleep style – even in hard-to-find sizes. Go to brooklynbedding.com and use promo code BIBLE at checkout to get 30% off sitewide. This offer is not available anywhere else. ********** This episode is sponsored by ButcherBox, which delivers over 100 premium protein options straight to your door, including 100% grass-fed beef, free-range organic chicken, crate-free pork, and wild-caught seafood. New listeners can get their choice between organic ground beef, chicken breast or ground turkey in every box for a year, PLUS $20 off when you go to ButcherBox.com/NORMALPEOPLE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Bible for normal people, the only God ordained podcast on the internet.

0:05.0

I'm Pete N's.

0:05.7

And I'm Jared Baez.

0:11.6

Easy question to start us off today.

0:14.0

What is biblical marriage?

0:17.1

Glad to see we're starting off with some light banter today.

0:19.7

Yeah, well, you know, people say it all the time. The Bible clearly defines marriage, but I'm always like, are we talking about arranged marriages, polygamy, leferite marriage, property transfers? Because the Bible's got option. Yeah, exactly. Well, that's why we're excited about our upcoming class with Jennifer Bird on, you guessed it, biblical marriage.

0:42.0

Yeah, Jennifer is a New Testament scholar and the author of a fantastic book on this topic, and she basically says, let's slow down. Let's look at the actual passages people use,

0:47.8

and let's ask whether they're doing what we think they're doing. Yeah, and in the class,

0:51.8

Jennifer's going to cover the four key passages that are most

0:55.2

used to define biblical marriage, the Mount Rushmore of biblical marriage, if you will, and why

1:00.7

they don't say what people sometimes think they do. Then she'll zoom out and ask, what does

1:06.3

marriage actually look like across the Bible, not our idealized version of it, but the real

1:10.4

thing, helping us understand the differences between marriage and the Bible, not our idealized version of it, but the real thing,

1:15.2

helping us understand the differences between marriage and the Bible and modern marriage.

1:19.4

Then we're going to look at some overlooked passages from the prophets and Jesus that dramatically shift how we approach the Bible for guidance about marriage and helpful ways to

1:24.2

reframe the question entirely.

1:26.4

So if you've ever felt like the phrase biblical marriage is doing a lot of heavy lifting,

1:31.9

or if you've quietly wondered whether we're oversimplifying things...

1:35.6

This is a class for you.

1:36.6

So mark your calendar for Tuesday, March 31st from 8 to 9.30 p.m. Eastern Time

1:42.1

and go to the Bible for normal people.com front slash biblical

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