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Bibi on board? Iran, America and Israel’s campaign in Lebanon

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The Economist

News, News & Politics

4.35K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2026

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Also on the daily podcast: what the Artemis Moon mission really accomplished and remembering a brave Soviet psychiatrist


SHOW-NOTES TEXT  (60ish wds)

Binyamin Netanyahu says his strikes against Hizbullah are separate from the Iran-war ceasefire. That assertion is putting cracks in the deal, and in Israel’s relationship with America. We look at the stated and the unstated goals of the Artemis mission to the Moon—both achieved. And a tribute to Semyon Gluzman, who exposed the Soviet ruse of labelling dissidents as mental-health cases.


Guests and host:

  • Anshel Pfeffer, Israel correspondent
  • Oliver Morton, senior editor
  • Ann Wroe, obituaries editor
  • Jason Palmer, co-host of “The Intelligence”


Topics covered: 

  • Israel, Iran war, Lebanon, America
  • Artemis mission, NASA, Moon
  • Semyon Gluzman, Soviet Union, psychiatry


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0:00.0

The Economist

0:02.0

Hello and welcome to the intelligence from The Economist.

0:13.0

I'm your host, Jason Palmer.

0:15.0

Every weekday we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.

0:20.0

The crew fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.

0:28.6

The crew of the Artemis 2 space mission is on its way back home. Our Planetary Affairs Editor takes stock of what it accomplished.

0:32.6

Far more psychology and public engagement than science.

0:35.6

And that is in fact the best objective to have aimed for.

0:41.3

And in Soviet Russia, disagreeing with the state was a quick route to a diagnosis of mental illness and a life in the gulog.

0:48.3

Semyon Glusman was the first psychiatrist to call out the ruse and did so quietly for years.

0:55.6

Our obituaries editor reflects on his life.

1:01.4

But first...

1:06.6

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has developed a fairly Trumpian ambiguity about his intentions in Lebanon.

1:18.1

Yesterday, he said Israel would begin talks with the country to establish peaceful relations.

1:23.6

Hours later, he said Israeli strikes against his Bullah would continue until the Iran-backed militants disarm.

1:30.3

The campaign is extracting a heavy human toll.

1:37.3

On Wednesday, airstrikes on Beirut resulted in an estimated 300 deaths, the deadliest day in decades. Soon after, the capital streets were deserted.

1:49.0

A defiant Hezbollah returned fire. Israel insists Lebanon is not included in the ceasefire

1:58.0

agreement between America and Iran, an agreement struck without Israel in the ceasefire agreement between America and Iran.

2:03.3

An agreement struck without Israel in the room.

2:05.6

Iran says it is included.

2:09.5

That is putting strain on what began as a joint mission.

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