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Bad People

Bi People 4: Are bisexuals invisible at work?

Bad People

BBC

Society & Culture, True Crime, Unknown

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2022

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

US politician, Katie Hill, is one of the first politicians to openly identify as bisexual while campaigning for office. However things quickly take a turn for the worse as she is entangled in a scandal, and the media share naked photos of her in a sexual relationship with a younger female member of staff. Would the fallout have been different if she had stayed in the closet? In celebration of Pride Month Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen explore the history, science and culture of bisexuality. In this episode, they discuss “revenge porn”, why fewer bisexual people are out at work (and in politics) than lesbian and gay people, and they review the science of threesomes. Warning: This episode includes mention of suicide, sexual refences and some swearing. The episode contains audio from Vice News CREDITS Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producer: Caroline Steel Assistant Producers: Simon Rata and Emily Bird Music: Matt Chandler Editor: Rami Tzabar #BadPeople_BBC Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC

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0:00.0

Ever wondered what the world's wealthiest people did to get so ridiculously rich?

0:05.5

Our podcast Good Bad Billionaire takes one billionaire at a time and explains exactly how they made their money.

0:11.9

And then we decide if they are actually good, bad or just plain wealthy.

0:15.5

So if you want to know if Rihanna is as much of a bad guy as she claims,

0:19.2

or what Jeff Bezos really did to become the first person in history to pocket $100 billion,

0:24.6

listen to Good Bad Billionaire with me, Simon Jack, and me, Zinc Zinc.

0:28.5

Listen on BBC Sounds.

0:31.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:35.9

Three, two, one.

0:39.5

When is the first time you came out as queer at work?

0:43.6

I've never come out as queer at work.

0:47.4

I mean, I probably mentioned it at some point if it came up or if it was relevant,

0:52.0

but I don't think I've ever had a job where it felt like it was necessary.

0:57.0

But also, you have a proper job where you wear suits and stuff like you go into a courtroom,

1:02.0

and I imagine it's different for you.

1:05.8

Yes, I imagine it is.

1:07.5

And there's already a lot of issues around feeling a bit out of place sometimes

1:11.6

because I don't look the way people expect an expert to look.

1:14.5

And so add to that bisexuality, I think, can be a lot for people.

1:18.6

So I've come up to the odd colleague here and there for about a decade,

1:21.8

but probably the first ever that I did it in a job interview style situation

1:27.2

was in fact when I pitched the concept that would become our bad people podcast to the BBC.

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