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Number one thing I want to say about these two is I'm actually really freaking proud of them, man.

You know, they have told me that I make them think. And I got to say that if I'm

making somebody think, I'm doing a good job here, you know? And I've actually watched these two

grow since we first started talking. And I have to say, like, I'm just, I'm really excited about their growth for them.

I'm really excited about them branching into new horizons and opening themselves up a little bit more.

And tonight I have coined this episode, The the science of love because this was actually a choice

of subject matter by my two guests and um i was i was stoked when i saw this because we

we all know love is is such a huge thing and we got some other great stuff we're going to

we're going to talk about as well but let me bring to to the stage, Brothers Blue. First we have Brother Cody. What's up, man? Good to see you. Hello, everyone. Yeah, man. Yeah. And we got Brother Kyle, man. What's up, Kyle? Good to see you. Hey, guys. Well, man, thanks. Thanks you too for joining me tonight. you know this i think like i said the subject matter you guys picked man thanks thanks you too for joining me tonight you know this i think like i said

the subject matter you guys picked for this um uh i think we're going to have a really fine

conversation and uh again thanks for both of you taking your time being here all right nonetheless

guys let's break right into it it's going to be interesting so let's talk about the loss of trust

and faith in scientific institutions now at least in my perspective uh one reason why this has been the

case is there has been a lot of dishonesty in this sense.

And of course, I think both of you have heard me say this before.

You know, when money talks and bullshit walks, we can look at everything as a business first, public mask, second, right?

And couple that with the, I mean, I've, the grave ethics violations, not just in the physics community, but also in a lot of the other communities within the

scientific institution as well. I feel in a lot of ways that profit and manipulation has kind

of taken over the altruistic nature and the altruistic side of these institutions.

So I'm going to go ahead to move it to Cody.

Let's give your thoughts real quick and then we'll hop down to Kyle.

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