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I think a lot of us, and the one thing that I you know noticed about it's like a common back story

for us all who are on this path is we've all had a lot of hurt and we've all had a lot of trauma

and our lives that have kind of made us come full circle to where we are today and that's one thing

I appreciate about you Neil is that you immediately had this experience,

you had this revelation,

and the first thing you wanted to do was help people.

And I think that's fucking awesome.

I think that's awesome.

Well, that's just, you know,

that lends credence to you know where we're coming from in this.

I think, you know, this kind of,

we've all been through some shit,

I mean, per se. I really want to go down to it. And we were looking at things in our lives. I mean,

obviously, I had experiences with antidepressants and ADHD meds and things like that, that, you know,

yes, that these things, they were just putting a band-aid on the actual problem at hand

it was not getting down to the solution and even though i went through therapy myself

you know it was really the implementation of plant medicines that helped me and you know i love both

of y'all's stories so let's let's kind of get into it just a tiny bit more. So Alina, I'm really, really curious

because you seem to be kind of on the forefront of a lot of the things going on with psychedelic

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