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Ben Franklin's World

BFW Revisited: Founding Friendships

Ben Franklin's World

Liz Covart

History, Society & Culture

4.4 β€’ 1.6K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 13 May 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

What did friendship between men and women look like in the decades following the American Revolution? Could emotional closeness and intellectual kinship flourish outside of marriageβ€” and without scandal?

In this episode, we revisit our earlier conversation with historian Cassandra Good, author of Founding Friendships: Friendships between Men and Women in the Early American Republic. Building on our recent exploration of love and advice in 1690s England, we take a closer look at how early Americans navigated the shifting social norms of gender, intimacy, and platonic relationships.

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0:00.0

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast.

0:11.5

Hello, and welcome to Ben Franklin's World Revisited,

0:15.1

a series of classic episodes that bring fresh perspective to our latest episodes

0:18.8

and add deeper connections to our understanding

0:21.0

of early American history. And I'm your host, Liz Covart. In our most recent episode, episode

0:27.6

410, historian Mary Beth Norton guided us through the letters and advice columns of the Athenian

0:33.2

Mercury, which offered us a unique window into the personal questions, emotional dilemmas, and social

0:38.7

expectations that shape love and marriage in 1690s England. Today, we're extending that

0:45.3

conversation by revisiting episode 94 and our exploration of cross-sex friendships in the early

0:50.8

American Republic, because even his attitudes towards intimacy, intellect, and

0:55.3

gender roles changed over time, people remain deeply curious about what relationships between men and

1:01.1

women could or should look like. So what did friendships between men and women look like in the

1:07.4

decades after the American Revolution? Could emotional closeness and intellectual

1:11.6

kinship exist outside of a marriage? And how did early Americans navigate the social risks

1:17.0

and rewards of those ties? To help us answer those questions, we'll return to Cassandra Good,

1:23.9

author of Founding Friendships, Friendships Between Men and Women in the Early American Republic.

1:29.7

Now, during our chat, Cassie reveals why cross-sex friendships were both common and controversial

1:35.6

in the post-revolutionary United States, the emotional, intellectual, and political roles that

1:41.3

these friendships played for both men and women,

1:48.2

and how such relationships provided rare opportunities for gender equality within a society still governed by legal covature and strict etiquette.

1:53.3

Now, if you enjoyed our discussion with Mary Beth Norton about anonymous advice and emotional

1:57.4

life in the 1690s, then you'll find this conversation offers a fascinating

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