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Ben Franklin's World

BFW Revisited: A Declaration in Draft

Ben Franklin's World

Liz Covart

History, Society & Culture

4.6 β€’ 1.5K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 8 July 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

The Declaration of Independence is one of the most iconic documents in United States history. But what do we really know about how it came to be?

In our most recent episode, historian Emily Sneff helped us explore the Declaration through your questions–questions that revealed just how complex, living, and contested this document still is.

So in today's Revisited episode, we take a listen to the podcast that Emily helped to produce back in 2017: Episode 141: A Declaration in Draft.

Originally part of the Omohundro Institute's Doing History: To the Revolution! Series, this episode features three distinguished scholars: Danielle Allen, Patrick Spero, and Peter Onuf, Together, these scholars reveal that many hands and minds shaped the Declaration of Independence. They also help us dive into some of the document's contradictions around slavery and equality.

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Show Notes: https://www.benfranklinsworld.com/415
 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to an Airwave Media podcast.

0:11.5

Hello, and welcome to Ben Franklin's World Revisited,

0:15.5

a series of classic episodes that bring fresh perspective to our latest episodes

0:19.4

and add deeper connections to our understanding of early American history.

0:23.6

And I'm your host, Liz Covart.

0:25.6

The Declaration of Independence is one of the most iconic documents in United States history.

0:31.6

But what do we really know about how it came to be?

0:34.6

In our most recent episode, historian Emily Sneff helped us explore the declaration through

0:40.2

your questions, questions that revealed just how complex, living, and contested this document

0:45.7

still is.

0:47.2

So in today's revisited episode, I thought we'd take a listen to the podcast that Emily helped

0:51.8

us produce back in 2017, episode 141, a Declaration

0:57.3

and Draft. Originally part of the Omohondro Institute's doing history to the Revolution series,

1:02.5

this episode features three distinguished scholars. Danielle Allen, who unpacks the philosophical

1:08.8

and political ideas behind the Declaration, Patrick Spiro,

1:12.6

who helps us explore the editorial influence of Benjamin Franklin, and Peter Onof, who guides

1:18.1

us through Thomas Jefferson's drafting process. Together, these scholars reveal that many

1:23.3

heads and minds shape the Declaration of Independence. They also help us dive into some of the documents' contradictions, especially around slavery and

1:30.9

equality.

1:32.2

So this episode first aired on July 4, 2017, and it still remains one of our most powerful

1:38.0

and one of our most popular episodes in our catalog.

1:41.7

So I hope you enjoy this look back at episode 141, a declaration in draft.

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