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BEYOND THE VEIL: Juror#18 - An Interview with Lori Vallow Juror Tom Evans

Hidden True Crime

Hidden True Crime

True Crime, Documentary, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2024

⏱️ 116 minutes

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Summary

Tom Evans served as a juror in the Lori Vallow Daybell trial in the spring of 2022. While we briefly interviewed Tom during Lori's sentencing, in this episode He speaks candidly of his time on the jury, hearing the shocking details about the murders of JJ Vallow, Tylee Ryan and Tammy Daybell. After interviewing Tom on this episode, Tom spends the last half of this episode interviewing the hosts --Lauren and John Matthias. HIDDEN: A TRUE CRIME PODCAST is: CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGY REINVENTED. Hosts Dr John Matthias and his wife Lauren Matthias, a forensic psychologist and a journalist, invite you to join them on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors in order to understand the world and ourselves. DR. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and has consulted on numerous high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states. In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California. Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day. LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Idaho and Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah. In 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award. She left the reporting world to produce the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist. She is a frequent contributor for News Nation. WEBSITE: https://hiddentruecrime.com/ TO SUPPORT: https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime https://paypal.me/hiddentruecrime Our Sponsors:* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.armoire.style* Check out Effecty and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.effecty.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://happymammoth.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hidden, a true crime podcast. A forensic psychologist and a journalist explore the hidden motives

0:09.6

behind unthinkable crimes while examining our deepest fears along the way.

0:20.9

Hello hidden Jans, this is a very special hidden hour tonight and yes it is it is Friday night not

0:29.8

Saturday so thank you for shifting your schedules if you're planning on Saturday to be with us Friday because we are so honored to have

0:39.8

With us Tom Evans. Tom Evans is also known as juror number 18 when it came to the Lori Valo de Bell trial in Boise, Idaho.

0:52.4

Tom was there every day, I was there every day.

0:54.0

We did not know each other. We could not speak.

0:56.0

We could not look at each other.

0:58.0

We could not acknowledge one another.

1:00.0

He faced, you faced Lori Valle every day of trial and looked directly at her. That's how the courtroom was situated and where I sat I looked straight ahead at jurors actually and had to give you guys space and only

1:18.6

tweet, live tweet from my phone as to not cause typing noises.

1:32.8

But we're so grateful to see everyone here. Please let your friends know we are here tonight because this is going to be a great conversation. This is going to be a conversation among friends. We have questions for Tom, but it's not every day that someone with us, a guest with us has questions

1:38.2

for us, and Tom has those for us tonight as well, specifically Dr. John.

1:43.2

So we are going to be talking to Lori Valo and Chad

1:46.4

Daybell case tonight, but specifically Tom's experience

1:49.8

through Tom's lens, learning about the case through evidence at trial.

1:53.8

And we'll turn the time over to Tom because who we're all interested in right now

1:58.2

tonight is Tom.

1:59.3

But thank you everybody for being here tonight.

2:02.7

This is going to be a conversation among friends.

2:04.5

I did hit subscriber only on chat and I made it five minutes.

2:08.6

You have to be a subscriber for five minutes before you can join just because this is,

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