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BEYOND THE VEIL: Interview with Lori Vallow Daybell's Brother and Uncle- Adam Cox and Rex Conner

Hidden True Crime

Hidden True Crime

Documentary, News, True Crime, News Commentary, Society & Culture

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2023

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Lori Vallow Daybell has been convicted of murdering her two children. Her brother Adam Cox and her Uncle Rex Cox sit down with hosts John and Lauren Matthias to discuss the crimes that have rocked their family. A forensic psychologist and journalist (who are husband and wife) explore the inner workings of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Daybell's minds, as well as the hidden motivations driving a series of inexplicable murders in 2019. While Lauren attended Lori's trial and plans to attend her sentencing in July of 2023, the hosts continue interviewing and investigating what's Hidden, just as they have been for three years. You can get caught up by listening to our full 'Beyond the Veil" season. LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Boise, Idaho Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes and criminals to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah and in 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and has been reporting with News Nation throughout the trial. She is the producer and editor of the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist. DR. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and has consulted on numerous high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states. In the forensic area, Dr. Matthias has developed expertise in personality assessments, hidden behavioral motivations, complex trauma and criminal psychology. In the clinical realm, he has worked with numerous victims. He received his Master’s degree in Marriage, Family and Child counseling, as well his doctorate degree, from the University of Southern California.  Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day.  Dr. Matthias is an adjunct assistant professor in the University of Nevada Las Vegas clinical psychology doctoral program. He supervises UNLV doctoral students on forensic assessments, clinical case formulation, and various therapeutic approaches to clinical work. Contact them at HiddenTrueCrimeInfo@gmail.com WEBSITE: https://hiddentruecrime.com/ TO SUPPORT: https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime https://paypal.me/hiddentruecrime https://cash.app/$hiddenTruecrime. DISCLAIMER: The views of our guests/interviewees, do not reflect the views of Hidden True Crime. Our Sponsors:* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.armoire.style* Check out Effecty and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.effecty.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://happymammoth.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hidden Gems, it's Lauren with Hidden A True Crime Podcast. As a TV reporter, I learned the art of visual storytelling.

0:07.0

So if you're like me, you enjoy listening, but also viewing.

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You can actually head to our YouTube channel Hidden True Crime to watch these interviews.

0:16.0

Hit the subscribe button for surprise lives and breaking news.

0:19.0

And for exclusive content, become a Patreon member at patreon.com slash Hidden True Crime.

0:26.0

You'll find bonus episodes, early releases, and insider info.

0:30.0

Thank you for your endless support.

0:32.0

We are grateful to the interviewing two members of Laurie Valadebelle's family.

0:40.0

The Lord is gathering his people.

0:43.0

She wanted validation that she was somebody special.

0:47.0

He is calling people to the 144,000.

0:50.0

Family members and friends and anybody that would listen to her.

0:53.0

She got Alex involved.

0:55.0

I mean, did you see Laurie and Alex having an inappropriate relationship?

0:58.0

It's certainly something that's come up a lot.

1:00.0

She implies that she's had a really bad past and a really difficult childhood.

1:07.0

Maybe it was something from your family, or I don't know.

1:11.0

That's just one small thing that started this whole transition of Laurie going down this road.

1:19.0

Help us understand what you said in that.

1:22.0

Please interview. Did she and Alex plot to hurt her ex-husband?

1:28.0

I should just, there's just, there's something that's really wild.

1:32.0

Adam did say to me before this started, you know, you can ask me anything.

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