BEYOND THE VEIL: Friend of Brandon Boudreaux and Melani Pawlowski breaks silence

Hidden True Crime

Documentary, News, True Crime, News Commentary, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 4 December 2023

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Jes was a close friend of Melani Pawlowski - Lori Vallow's niece - and is a close friend of Brandon Boudreaux. Jes shares her harrowing experience trying to help her friends, and the fear she experienced for months while people around her kept dying. This interview with Jes took place June 30th, 2021 the day after Lori Vallow was charged in Arizona for conspiring in the murder of her then-husband Charles Vallow. Charles was shot to death on July 11, 2019 by his brother-in-law Alex cox. Four years after Charles Vallow was shot and killed, Lori Vallow Daybell will face charges of first degree murder. We livestreamed Thursday's news conference with the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office on our YouTube Channel, and Lauren reads the charging documents and evidence Arizona has against Lori Vallow in our last episode. Our original Beyond the Veil season continues as a forensic psychologist and journalist (who are husband and wife) explore the inner workings of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Daybell's minds, as well as the hidden motivations driving a series of inexplicable murders in 2019. LAUREN MATTHIAS worked as an anchor and reporter for ABC, NBC, and FOX News in Boise, Idaho Salt Lake City, Utah. She spent a decade reporting on a diverse range of topics from high profile crimes and criminals to Presidential visits. Most recently, she reported for Salt Lake City’s ABC affiliate News4Utah and in 2015 she received the Idaho State Broadcaster’s Association Best Reporter award and reported with News Nation throughout the trial. She is the producer and editor of the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist. Contact them at HiddenTrueCrimeInfo@gmail.com Support them at Patreon.com/hiddentruecrime Our Sponsors:* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.armoire.style* Check out Effecty and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.effecty.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://happymammoth.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	We are about to play an interview that took place June 30th, 2021.
0:05.6	So over two years ago, it was the day after Lori Valle was charged in Arizona
0:10.4	for conspiring in the murder of her then husband Charles Valo.
0:14.0	Charles was shot to death on July 11th, 2019 by Lori's brother Alex Cox.
0:21.6	Now we've never played this interview on our podcast before until today.
0:26.8	It actually happened before Hidden Drew Crime even owned microphones for our
0:31.0	long-distance Zoom interviews. So forgive the audio from our end.
0:35.6	But this week Lori was extradited to Arizona to finally face murder charges in
0:40.9	Charles's death and we realize it is time to revisit this
0:44.9	important conversation with someone in Arizona who saw firsthand her
0:49.9	friends devastating beliefs turn into the unfathomable.
0:54.0	Hidden, a true crime podcast, a forensic psychologist and a journalist
1:01.0	explore the hidden motives behind unthinkable crimes
1:05.0	while examining our deepest fears along the way. Jess is a
1:18.0	someone I'm grateful we'll finally be able to hear from.
1:22.0	She was a close friend of Melanie Pulowski
1:24.4	and is a close friend of Brandon Boudreau.
1:26.9	And she'll explain that relationship in more detail
1:29.5	at the beginning of this interview.
1:31.7	Jess has been one of Hidden True Crimes many reliable sources. of this
1:33.3	crime's many reliable sources.
1:35.2	Someone we haven't mentioned because she wasn't ready to come forward
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