BEYOND THE VEIL: Did Lori Vallow Kill before meeting Chad? Was Joe Ryan murdered?
Hidden True Crime
Hidden True Crime
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🗓️ 22 November 2023
⏱️ 95 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hidden, a true crime podcast, a forensic psychologist and a journalist explore the hidden motives |
| 0:09.2 | behind unthinkable crimes while examining our deepest fears along the way. We dropped this week a large bombshell about Audrey Barataro, a witness in court at the Lori Valo de Bell trial. |
| 0:35.0 | And why don't we just play that right now? |
| 0:39.0 | Because we have Dr. John Mathias here with us tonight. |
| 0:42.9 | Yes, for those new to the station, or the station, |
| 0:45.8 | I used to work at a station for those new to the channel. |
| 0:49.6 | For those new to the channel, he is my husband, but he is also a clinical and forensic psychologist and brilliant I might add so we're going to have him talk to us about what this means for this case that is unending. |
| 1:03.7 | Lori has had one trial, but there is another one in Arizona |
| 1:07.9 | as well as Chad's trial next year in Idaho. |
| 1:13.1 | So let's listen really quickly to that bombshell |
| 1:17.7 | and we'll go from there. |
| 1:21.9 | I've verified this person and how they are connected to Audrey who I can say they spoke to. |
| 1:30.0 | I'm going to read it because there are many things this confidential source told me and I'm only allowed to say this part. |
| 1:35.0 | So I'm going to read it to make sure I have it right. |
| 1:39.0 | So a confidential source, again, that I have vetted, this confidential source again that I have vetted this confidential source spoke directly to |
| 1:47.0 | Audrey and this source tells me that Audrey told them that Lori told her told Audrey. |
| 1:56.4 | Lori told Audrey. |
| 1:58.5 | That Lori said to Audrey that Lori watched Joe Ryan take his last breath and that Lori enjoyed it. |
| 2:08.0 | Lori implied someone else was there when Joe took his last breath and that Lori was grateful Joe's |
| 2:17.1 | body was not found for days. That's all I can share right now. |
| 2:23.4 | For those new to this case, Joe Ryan is Lori Valo, |
| 2:27.7 | De Bell's third husband. |
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