Beyond the DORA metrics: Measuring engineering excellence

Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Thoughtworks

Careers, Business, 907234, Technology

4.7 • 53 Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Is it really possible to measure the impact engineering teams have on a business' success? At a time when growth is challenging for many organizations and questions about productivity and effectiveness dominate industry conversations, getting it right is crucial. And although the DORA metrics are today well-established and extremely useful is it really enough? Do they actually help us tie the work we do to tangible business results?

In attempting to answer these questions, a group of Thoughtworkers have developed what they call EEBO metrics. These are designed to measure engineering excellence to business outcomes.

To discuss EEBO metrics, hosts Prem Chandrasekaran and Scott Shaw (CTO, Thoughtworks APAC) are joined by Dinker Charak (Principal Product Strategist) and Sachin Dharmapurikar (Global Product Manager). Charak and Dharmapurikar helped to develop EEBO metrics; they believe it can be a valuable tool in aligning often complex engineering projects and activities with high-level business goals and objectives. Listen as they explain what EEBO metrics are (and aren't) and how businesses should think about using them.

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0:00.0	Welcome, everyone to the ThoughtWorks Technology podcast.
0:11.0	I'm joined by my co-host Scott.
0:14.0	Scott, do you want to introduce yourself?
0:16.0	Sure, my name is Scott Shaw.
0:18.0	I'm the head of technology for Asia-Pacific region and ThoughtWorks,
0:22.5	and I've been one of the regular hosts of this podcast as well.
0:26.9	Wonderful. Thanks, Scott. And today we are joined by two of our colleagues, Dinkar Charak and
0:33.2	Sachin Darmapur-Dhark. Dinkar, do you want to quickly introduce yourself?
0:38.0	Sure.
0:38.5	I'm a product strategist at ThoughtWorks.
0:41.4	I'm very interested in building products that matter.
0:46.7	And matrix is a very important aspect of that and a favorite subject of mine.
0:52.9	I'm happy to be here.
0:56.0	Sachin? Thank you. I'm Sachin Dhrmah Purikar. I am a product manager for engineering effectiveness solution.
1:01.0	And as you can see, it has metrics at its heart and I have been working on Evo, which is the topic for today for a couple of years.
1:12.8	So super excited to be here.
1:14.9	Thank you very much both for joining us.
1:17.0	It's indeed a pleasure to have you both.
1:19.5	So like you said, Sachin, we'll be talking today about eBometrics.
1:24.9	So for our listeners, can you tell us what ebo metrics are?
1:29.8	Yeah, it's an acronym, a little mouthful, but it will start making sense when we explain.
1:36.2	So EBO stands for engineering excellence to business outcomes.
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