Today on the Grave Talks, paradigm shifts, a conversation with Andrea Perrin.

You know her story from the book's House of Darkness, House of Light, and portions of the movie The Conjuring.

Andrea Perrin has lived a life unlike most others. Today we catch up with her to discuss what it is like revisiting the infamous house with her family

after being away for so many years, the feelings and emotions it overtook her, and the dark

feelings that overtook some of her sisters.

We also dive into a conversation about how the global pandemic has affected our spiritual world

and the massive paradigm shifts

that we're currently going through, how it may turn out, and what may be able to lead us

to a connective idea of one. All of that and more today on the Grave Talks. Welcome back. It's

been a while, but I'm so happy that you're here on the program again.

Lots has, I think, happened, transpired, occurred in your world, in the world of the story, you know, of what everyone knows as the Conjuring House.

You know, since I think the last time you've been on.

So there's a lot of things that we can kind of dive into. I think one of the questions that I want

to just begin with is it's been in the media, in the press, quite a bit since there's been

new owners of the house. It's been opened up for investigations,

things of that nature. And I want to get into that. I want to get into what it was like going back

there with your family. But let's start there. Let's start there with when the house was purchased

and then really started to be looked at as paranormal tourism, if you will,

where people can go in and investigate.

What were your initial thoughts on that transpiring?

Well, I didn't know precisely what the new owner's intentions were with the house.

It needed, it had suffered some neglect.

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