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Archetypes

'Beyond the Archetype: Human, Being' with Michaela Jaé Rodriguez & Candace Bushnell

Archetypes

Archewell Audio

History, Society & Culture

4.2967 Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

In the penultimate episode, Meghan explores the freedom and fulfillment that can be found when we live outside of the labels we’re given by society. Joined by Sex and the City author Candace Bushnell and actor and activist Michaela Jaé Rodriquez, together they dive into an open conversation about expressing one’s identity and embracing the nuances that make each of us, quite simply, human. This episode also features special appearances from Dr. Shefali Tsabary, poet Amanda Gorman and a few voices from Meghan’s high school alma mater.

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0:00.0

Lemonnara.

0:02.0

There's a piece of art in my sitting room.

0:07.0

It's not fancy.

0:10.0

It's kind of this rectangle shape, almost plaque-like, and it just says a few words very simply across it.

0:19.0

Human kind, be both.

0:22.0

My dear friend, Genevue gave it to me a couple years ago when I walked

0:24.9

past it I just always makes me smile of course because I love her and our

0:29.0

friendship and it reminds me of her. We've been super close since we were about 17, but also because it's true.

0:37.5

Human, kind, be both.

0:46.6

And it got me thinking of other types of word play that resonate and I specifically was thinking about something that I was told many years ago.

0:51.8

You're not just a human being. You're a human, just being. Now the

0:59.4

woman who told me this was trying to remind me to just be easier on myself. Sort of in the same vein of saying,

1:07.0

don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

1:10.0

Well, this is just another version of that same ilk of advice. You're human, just being.

1:16.5

And as I think about what we've covered throughout this podcast so far and the many ways my guests and I have reflected on the girls

1:25.2

that we once were and the women that we've become. I wanted to revisit a large

1:30.3

piece of my origin story, my old school, and explore if these labels and boxes are part of

1:38.0

the self-identification for the young women there, or if they've given themselves the space to be a human being.

1:48.0

Okay, ready team?

1:55.0

This is all very nice and new. Isn't that a pretty campus?

1:57.0

Oh my gosh, how funny.

2:01.0

My locker was right over here.

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