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The Times Tech Podcast

Beyond Meat's Ethan Brown: "Burger 2.0"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2018

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’s tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Ethan Brown, founder of Beyond Meat, on why he got into “clean meat” (4:15), treating the problem like climate change (6:00), the four building blocks of meat (8:15), the problems he is trying to solve (9:15), growing up around a farm (13:00), his first career in green energy (15:00), starting in 2009 with "chicken wood chips" from Taiwan (17:30), why smell matters (18:45), the centrality of meat in life (21:30), recreating the cow through plants (23:45), attracting Kleiner Perkins, Bill Gates and other investors (25:15), going into battle over the word “meat” (29:15), how scientific progress has made “clean meat” possible (33:00), coming to Europe (35:15), why it costs more (36:55), whether we are at “peak cow” (40:10), his worst day of work (42:15), why he invited “Big Meat” into the company (44:00), and the taste test (45:25).

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0:00.0

At New Balance, we believe if you run, you're a runner, however you choose to do it.

0:10.0

Because when you're not worried about doing things the right way, you're free to discover your way.

0:16.0

And that's what running's all about.

0:24.1

Run your way at newbalance.com slash running.

0:32.1

Welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from deep inside the Silicon Valley Future Machine.

0:38.8

Before we get to today's show, which was recorded on location in Los Angeles this week,

0:44.8

I want to let you know that as promised, we have a double episode.

0:48.6

So in your feed alongside my upcoming interview here with Ethan Brown, who is the founder of Beyond Meat,

0:54.6

you should have a bonus episode, and it's a fun one, so check that out.

0:59.0

But now, we sally forth.

1:01.5

There are subjects to cover, burgers to eat, and the world to save.

1:06.1

So let's get to it.

1:07.3

Yo, technology.

1:10.0

What is it all about? About 14% of the total greenhouse gas emissions can be attributed to Latter Yo. Technology. What is it all about?

1:11.5

About 14% of the total greenhouse gas emissions can be attributed to livestock simply breathing.

1:16.4

And when they breathe, they respire carbon.

1:18.2

There's this unnatural number of animals on the earth surface because of agriculture.

1:22.0

Right.

1:22.2

Because this reliance on the animal to produce meat.

1:25.4

Why keep doing that if you don't have to?

1:28.8

On the program this week, we have Ethan Brown, who is the founder of Beyond Meat,

1:34.0

which has taken an entirely different tack on the veggie burger,

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