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Transforming Trauma

Beyond Disorder: Redefining Identity, Meaning, and Healing with Dr. David Puder

Transforming Trauma

Brad Kammer

Self-improvement, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Education

4.6140 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2025

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

"The work we do is meaningful, sometimes difficult, but it's the best work to do." - Dr. David Puder


On this episode of Transforming Trauma, Emily Ruth welcomes psychiatrist and psychotherapist Dr. David Puder to explore the clinical realities of complex trauma and the slow, often gritty path toward healing. Drawing on decades of hospital and outpatient experience, Dr. Puder offers candor and practical wisdom for clinicians and caring professionals who feel the weight of this work.

The pair discuss how complex developmental trauma shows up as dissociation and psychogenic symptoms rather than classic shock-based PTSD, how medical identities can eclipse a person's strengths, and ways to help families shift out of illness-based roles. You'll hear how dreams and creative writing can reveal disavowed material, why rare countertransference reactions are clinical clues, and how therapist reflective function — the ability to make meaning of inner reactions — predicts treatment impact. Dr. Puder also explains practical tools he developed, including a Connection Index for clinical teams, and offers concrete examples of converting medical patients into psychotherapy patients so they can reclaim agency and a life beyond diagnosis.


We invite you to listen to the full episode and follow Transforming Trauma on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or your favorite podcast app.

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The Complex Trauma Training Center (CTTC) is a professional organization providing clinical training, education, consultation, and mentorship for psychotherapists and mental health professionals working with individuals and communities impacted by Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) and Complex Trauma (C-PTSD). CTTC provides NARM® Therapist and NARM® Master Therapist Training programs, as well as ongoing monthly groups in support of those learning NARM. CTTC offers a depth-oriented professional community for those seeking a supportive network of therapists focused on three levels of shared human experience: personal, interpersonal & transpersonal. The Transforming Trauma podcast embodies the spirit of CTTC – best described by its three keywords: depth, connection, and heart - and offers guidance to those interested in effective, transformational trauma-informed care.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Transforming Trauma Podcast.

0:05.0

Transforming Trauma is presented by the Complex Trauma Training Center.

0:09.0

I'm your host, Emily Ruth, and I'm so glad you've joined us today.

0:13.0

Licensed mental health professionals, we warmly invite you to join our spring

0:18.0

2026 NARM Therapist Training, a live online immersion into the

0:23.6

transformative power of the neuro-effective relational model. This advanced clinical training

0:28.7

is designed specifically for those seeking to deepen their expertise in healing complex trauma

0:34.1

while offering the accessibility of an online format.

0:37.8

From January to August, 2026, you'll be part of a supportive, virtual community of learners,

0:44.2

integrating mindfulness and clinical expertise.

0:47.3

Through four comprehensive modules, you'll gain specialized, trauma-informed knowledge and skills

0:52.8

to confidently and compassionately address the impacts of

0:56.3

adverse childhood experiences and complex trauma. Together, we'll explore how to support the resolution

1:02.5

of attachment, developmental, relational, cultural, and intergenerational trauma, using a neurobiologically

1:09.8

informed approach that promotes post-traumatic growth.

1:12.6

Embodying professional and personal growth, you'll become a catalyst for transformation in your practice and community.

1:19.6

Enrollment is now open for licensed psychotherapists, counselors, social workers, psychologists, and other mental health professionals, as well as graduate

1:28.8

trainees and interns working toward licensure. Visit complextrauma training center.com to learn more

1:34.4

and secure your spot in this online training opportunity. And now for our interview. Dr. David

1:40.9

Puter is a psychiatrist, educator, and host of the Psychiatry and Psychotherapy Podcast.

1:46.6

He completed his psychiatry training at Loma Linda School of Medicine, where he later joined the faculty

1:52.2

and earned a certificate in adult psychoanalytic psychotherapy from the new Center for Psychoanalysis.

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