We're obviously disappointed with the case, which was wrongly decided, but the president and President Xi have developed a very strong and stable relationship.

Scott Bessent and myself, we've established strong relationships with our counterparts.

Our deals were not premised on whether or not this case remains in place or not.

As you mentioned, we have a variety of tools.

We've had tariffs on China since 2018. Even now, the average tariff on China is still about 40%. We have other tools if we need to use it. The point isn't trying to fight with China. It's really to have stability. For the soybean farmers, you mentioned, for people who are selling aircrafts and medical devices and folks who want to be able to import

some things we can't get elsewhere from China. And we're still on track for that. The meeting in

April is still on track. We think it'll be very successful. Jameson career weighing in the crisis

management that they're doing now because of that Supreme Court decision and how it affects the

China visit and there's going to be a follow-up visit if all things go well here. I'm sad to find out that we're holding up our weapons shipment to Taiwan just to make sure the March visit goes well. Taiwan needs to be a porcupine. That's the phrase they use. So China knows if they go in and try to fight a war, they haven't had a war since 1979, that they're going to get a lot of resistance. And it's going to be trouble. And we're going to go for it. And we're going to hopefully watch their back. Dr. Victor Cha knows all the machinations of the region. He's got a brand new book out called China Weaponization of trade resistance through collective resilience. He's the Distinguished University Professor at D.A. Xiong,

S.F, endowed chair in government international affairs at Georgetown, as well as president of

the Geopolitics and Foreign Policy Department and Korea chair at the Center for Strategic

and International Studies, and a former director for Asia Affairs at the White House National

Security Council. Victor, congratulations on the book.

Thank you, Brian. I think when people think about weaponization of trade, we think of China,

not buying our soybeans and China not selling us rare earth. Is that an example?

Yeah, those are two very good examples. Basically, they take what is normal trade interdependence and they weaponize it for political purposes.

And they've been doing this since 1979. We've documented over 600 cases. And it's really heightened under Xi Jinping.

WHO being them, bringing them in, big mistake?

Into the WTO, yes. It was probably a mistake at the time, but at the time, there was this prevailing

assumption that China, as it got rich, would eventually become more like us.

And so, you know, when they weaponized trade, we put up with it saying,

oh, you know, this is just a bump in the road in the end. There'll be a good news story to come out

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