Welcome everyone to Family Talk. It's a ministry of the James Dobson Family Institute, supported by listeners just like you.

I'm Dr. James Dobson, and I'm thrilled that you've joined us.

Well, welcome to Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh. You know, Memorial Day is a time to remember the men and women who paid the ultimate price for our freedom.

And on today's Family Talk broadcast, we have a story to share that brings that sacrifice into sharp focus.

In 1993, Sergeant Jeff Strueker led a squad in the Battle of Mogadishu, Somalia,

an intense firefight in which a few hundred soldiers faced somewhere between 10 and 20,000 armed

combatants. Multiple Black Hawk helicopters were shot down. 19 Americans were killed. 73 more

were wounded. You may know this battle from the 2001 film called Black Hawk Down.

But the story you're about to hear here on Dr. James Dobson's family talk actually goes far beyond

what any movie can ever capture. Jeff Strueger served actively for 22 years before retiring

as a major and a chaplain. He holds a Ph.D. from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary

and is the award-winning author of six books, including The Road to Unafraid.

Here now is Dr. James Dobson to introduce today's guest here on Family Talk.

Well, hello everyone, and welcome to Family Talk.

I'm your host, Dr. James Dobson, and as I hope you know, you should if you don't,

today is Memorial Day here in the United States.

And I have, he won't be comfortable with this, but a military hero having served with the

Army Rangers in Mogadishu, Somalia, and other places during horrendous battles.

The one I'm referring to is called Black Hawk down today, where how many helicopters

went down?

About five of the six troop carrying Blackhawks were shot down that day.

And how many helicopters generally?

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