Beyond Betrayal: The Making of Season 4
Betrayal Seasons 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
iHeartPodcasts | Glass Podcasts
4.6 • 655 Ratings
🗓️ 5 August 2025
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
In this special bonus episode of Betrayal, go behind the scenes with the Betrayal team featuring host Andrea Gunning and the producers, editors, and story team who brought Season 4 to life. This conversation took place on Beyond Betrayal, the official Substack of the Betrayal Podcast and Host Andrea Gunning. If you want to hear more conversations like this, subscribe for FREE today at: https://substack.com/@beyondbetrayal1
In this candid roundtable discussion, you'll hear how a single corrupted audio file nearly derailed the entire season—and how persistence led to one of the most shocking pieces of tape the team had ever encountered. The team explores why they made the crucial decision to expand beyond one officer's misconduct to examine the institutional culture that enables systemic betrayal. They also get personal about the emotional toll of spending months immersed in other people's pain—and the boundaries they've built to stay grounded while telling these difficult stories.
From building trust with sources to navigating the complexities of reporting on law enforcement, this conversation offers an unprecedented look at how investigative podcasting really works and the lengths the team took to get to the heart of this story.
And don’t forget, a new season of Betrayal Weekly premieres in TWO DAYS, Thursday August 7th. If you aren’t already, please be sure to subscribe to Betrayal for the latest from the Betrayal team. There are a lot of exciting announcements coming this Fall!
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:05.8 | Hey everyone, Andrea here with something special for you today. |
| 0:09.9 | What you're about to hear is a conversation I had with my Betrayal production team. |
| 0:14.1 | Producer Kerry Hartman, story editor Monique Laborde, audio editor Tanner Robbins, |
| 0:19.0 | and associate producer Caitlin Golden, on how we went about |
| 0:21.8 | making season four of betrayal. We sat down as a team and debriefed, a postmortem, if you will. |
| 0:28.3 | Only this time, we recorded it and launched a video on our new community, Beyond Betrayal, |
| 0:33.5 | exclusively on Substack. In this conversation, we get into the nitty-gritty details about how we conducted our reporting, |
| 0:41.1 | the relationships we've built with our sources, and how working on this season impacted each |
| 0:45.9 | of us personally. |
| 0:47.2 | You'll hear about the moments that shocked us, the challenges we faced, and why we made |
| 0:52.7 | some of the bigger storytelling decisions we did. |
| 0:55.3 | These are the kind of conversations we're having on Beyond Betrayal. |
| 0:58.8 | If you like this, please consider subscribing to Beyond Betrayal exclusively on Substack. |
| 1:04.0 | It is completely free, and you'll have access to conversations like these |
| 1:08.3 | and a lot more content from me, my team, and our subjects from |
| 1:12.4 | the Betrayal podcast. |
| 1:14.6 | Here is my conversation about the making of Betrayal Season 4. |
| 1:21.6 | Okay, guys, we are here today with a special video to commemorate the end of season four of betrayal. |
| 1:31.1 | And I wanted to have everyone, or mostly everyone, that made the season happen. So if you guys |
| 1:38.9 | would all do me a favor to introduce yourselves, we'll go around starting with Carrie. |
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