Hey, it's Empire's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. All right, not to brag, but I'm pretty

decent in the kitchen, but I'm more of a stovetop kind of guy. I've never really gotten a knack

for baking. And I think it's because of something our next guest says. Betel-Tunsch is the author

of the new cookbook, Tercass Kitchen, all about working with dough.

And she says the key to the perfect dough is A, following recipe directions thoroughly, and B, patience.

Two things that I'm not great at.

But hearing about some of these recipes, I might want to try to get a little bit better to share some more doughy secrets with here and now's Jane Clayson.

After the break.

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It all began in 2021 with a hypnotic video of hands manipulating bread dough as it's kneaded and punched, allowed to rest and then shaped into a beautiful loaf.

That video, Punch Down Doe, went viral, and its star Betul Toonch became a phenomenon.

Her Turquess Kitchen videos on Instagram have amassed 10.5 million followers.

Now, Batul Toonch has published her first cookbook, which is also called Turkaz Kitchen, and she joins us now via Skype to talk about it. Welcome to here and now.

Thank you so much for having me. Well, thank you for coming. Take us back four years ago,

where it all started with that punch-down dough video that really

changed your life. What made you think, I'm going to put my hand and punch down some dough?

I'm going to put that online. I don't know. Like, it's just coming with naturally, you know,

you never just plan to do something when you cook front of camera.

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