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Between Us

Between Us (GIRLS) with Bozoma Saint John (Part 2)

Between Us

iHeartPodcasts

Tv & Film, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

3.86.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Beverly Hills Housewife Boz is a boss in every way. She conquered the corporate world, AND she calls out the BS on the Real Housewives. 

 

But there’s one goal Boz is still hoping to achieve, and it’s something Heather knows a lot about!

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:09.9

I know how much you all love part one.

0:12.1

So here is part two of Between Us Girls with me and Bose.

0:17.1

When you look at your future, do you think of, do you do life in increments? Like, I still think of the year in school years. I mean, I still have a kid in high school. So do you? So do you. I don't know. I just think, yeah, I think September to May is like one chunk and then we have the summer. But do you think of your life in, like you have life events coming up?

0:37.8

So you're going to get married and your daughter's going to go to college? Or do you think I have a five-year plan? No, definitely not. How do you look at your future? Yeah, no. I really don't do five-year and 10-year plans and all that stuff. I don't even do vision boards. I don't do any of that stuff.

0:53.7

Because I really do

0:54.3

feel like it hinders and dampens the ability for something truly magical to happen in your life.

1:01.2

Okay. You know, this is back to the, you know, the work and the manifestation and all of that stuff.

1:07.7

Like, I just feel like, look, if you're not living in the present,

1:11.1

you're definitely going to miss something. You know, it's like you over here looking at five years down the road, meanwhile, you have an opportunity to sit into your left, and you're just going to totally miss that because you're over here trying to check off the box, you know? So I really do try to stay in the present as possible, and it takes a lot of discipline to do that because the the desire is to plan for later. Now, I'm not saying that I'm out here, like, without a retirement plan. Of course, I have one. I didn't mean money. You're smart. Trust me. I know, we're good there. Yeah. But, like, if you were to say, you know, what do you want to do in three years, like, I actually don't know. I have no idea. Okay, but is there something on

1:45.4

your list? Not really, to be honest with you. So you're just open to the universe and see what

1:51.9

happens. Yeah, I'm open. And I feel like that has really been a blessing to me. It really worked during

1:55.6

my corporate career too, by the way. Because people will look at my resume and be like, oh my God,

1:59.1

the strategy behind building this thing

2:01.4

and i'm like if you knew the how little strategy there was yeah yeah i i was on an interview once

2:08.5

where the interview was actually arguing with me there's like there's no way you get a resume

2:12.3

like this without strategy i was like oh yeah you want to talk about it how long do you have because

2:16.2

i will tell you what happened between each move and you won't, like, it'll make sense to you. And at the same time, you'll be like, God, damn. Because I think you're someone who's so very open to the universe. It's like you're saying, you're, you know, consciously present, open to the universe and able to see the moves.

2:35.3

So the show with Jimmy, did that just come up?

2:40.4

Like, how does that happen?

2:41.4

By the way, I met Nancy.

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