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Hackers and cyber criminals have always held this kind of special fascination.

Obviously I can tell you too much about what I do.

It's a game. Who's the best hacker? And I was like, well this is Child's Play.

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I was thinking, I think it would be amazing if in some world Melania divorces Trump because of the porn star and then gets the White House in the divorce.

No, because in my head I was like, I was just playing it all out. I would be the most amazing thing ever.

I could see the movie in my head now.

She has the White House. He's at a motel six.

He's just walking around without pants the whole day.

And then foreign leaders are coming to visit him. So they have to go to the motel to visit him.

But they don't know. The Prime Minister drives to the White House and when they get there, they're like, we have to do the President.

Melania's on the lawn. She's like, he doesn't live here anymore.

He doesn't live here no more. He knows what he did.

You can fight him at the motel. He's like, what do you mean the motel?

Then they're like, drives to the motel and it's like one of those like, Florida project motels.

This is chaos people, kids playing outside, someone's fixing a car.

You know, Donald Trump's up. You know when the Prime Minister gets out, he's like, oh, we have the right place.

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