You're listening to a special weekend edition of The World and Everything in it. I'm Nick Iker.

Over the past several months, pastor and writer Douglas Wilson has surfaced across a surprising range of media,

not just an in-depth profile on CNN and an interview with Ross Douthit on his New York Times podcast,

but also an appearance alongside

an ideological foe, Jank Yugar, of the Young Turks. The Wall Street Journal has examined his

growing influence, and here at World, we devoted a major magazine feature to him in the December

issue that we published this weekend. The title, Ambitious Faith, reported

and written by senior writer Emma Frere. So why the broad attention and what should Christians

make of Wilson, the controversies around him, and the debates he inspires? In just a moment,

world contributor Hunter Baker sits down for an extended conversation with

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I am Hunter Baker, a regular contributor to the world and everything in it, and provost of North Greenville University.

This is a special weekend edition of the podcast. I'm going to begin by doing my best to channel the spirit of one of my heroes, William F. Buckley, with a firing line-style introduction.

My guest today is a man who leads a paradoxical kind of existence, at least in terms of how he is perceived.

I say that because within the evangelical world, he is alternately regarded as either an indispensable man or a dangerous one.

There is no average of opinion when it comes to this provocative figure.

He is also a serial entrepreneur with serious social impact.

Our guest founded or co-founded, one of America's first classical Christian schools,

a great books college, and a publishing company. He pastors a church,

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