Let's say we've got someone who hits their 9 iron 150 yards, they think.

And I'll say, well, if it's a legitimate 150 yards without delafting the club like crazy,

where you're turning it into a 5 iron with your motion, then 150 yard 9 iron person is also about a 285 to 300 carry person with their driver. You know, I mean, if you're

hitting your driver 235, you're probably not a legitimate 9 iron 150 player. Yeah, I'm not trying

to blast them at all at that point, but let's say they're hitting it absolutely beautifully, really,

really pure, and they're hitting it 135 yards with their 9 iron. You know, and it's like, well, gosh, that's not very far because they watched Roy McElroy hit a nine iron for 165 the other day. And I'll say, look, you can't expect it to hit it as far as that. You're not a 300 on the carry person. And to let you know, that's not very far away

from how far I hit a night hour. So you're doing fine. Golf Smarter, number 742.

We've all heard it. Better lucky than good. And I say, come on, really? Chatting Golf with Roger Gunn.

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Here's your host, Fred Green.

Welcome back to the Golf Smarter Podcast, Roger.

Thanks so much, Fred.

Well, you know, the world is turned upside down.

And so actually, this is really funny.

We have to share this with the audience.

We recorded a conversation early this afternoon, this morning, and it was one of the better conversations I've had in years.

It was so much fun. It was hilarious, and it didn't record.

And so I recorded. Yours didn't record because whatever happened, happened.

And so here we are late at night and trying it again. And so it's not so funny.

I'm sorry.

There's a lot of similarities to golf because that's like going out on a late afternoon,

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