Welcome to You Are Not Broken, the only podcast that combines science, medicine, and psychology

to re-educate your brain and help you live your best love life. And I'm your host,

Ford certified female urologist, Dr. Casperson.

Hey friends, I'm back today with the always wonderful to talk to Dr. Vonda Wright, who's an

orthopedic surgeon and a friend and an innovator.

And she just, her mission is just to help educate and get women empowered to live their

best lives in the perimenopause in menopause era, which is what all of you guys are.

And today we're going to talk about sleep, which is incredibly important.

And I haven't talked about sleep yet on the podcast.

So I'm excited to do it because if you're not sleeping, nothing else is usually going well in your life. It just

good sleep makes everything else more wonderful. So welcome Dr. Vonda Wright and tell us your story

and how you got into sleep. What was, what's your sleep story? I am so glad to be back with you.

I mean, I just told you off air that I wish we lived in the same cul-de-sac. Can you imagine what

would happen if we could just, like, collaborate every single day? But my husband would like

be eye-rolling. He'd be like, can you get in the house yet? And I'd be like, but we have five

more projects we have to talk about today because it's Tuesday. That's right. We've got stuff to do, Mr. Go do your thing. It's so funny. Well, you know, well, you know what, thank you for letting me come on and talk about something that has been so important in my life, partly because I've lived a large majority of my life without it. And now that I have figured out midlife sleep, I wonder how I ever survived. Because, you know, like so many, you're a surgeon, but so many people in our professions, and so many people in general think that they'll sleep tomorrow. Or I've heard it said, I'll sleep when I die. Or, you know, I'm going to tell if you don't sleep, you might die

earlier. But the fact is, you know, I was a surgical trainee for about seven years after medical

school, right? Four years, medical, and then a surgeon trains a lot longer, seven years. And during

that time, we don't have control of our time.

And I'm sure you talk about that on your other projects.

But even when you try to have control of it, you just don't.

You either have minimal hours.

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