The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do their most exceptional work for the glory of

God and the good of others.

Every week I'm bringing you a conversation with a Christian who's pursuing world-class

mastery of their craft.

We're talking about their paths to mastery. We're talking about their day. of their Man I'm so excited about today's guest Jeremy Slagel and Beth Stafford.

Jeremy is a member of this community.

He's a regular listener of the podcast.

Reached out pitching he and Beth for the podcast.

I got on the phone with Jeremy

so impressed by him his work his story I knew they had to be on the show

Beth and Jeremy are both crazy talented graphic designers who have teamed up to publish two really great children's books that teach kids about the value of empathy

You gonna hear about these great books on the podcast I read both of them to my kids and loved both of these books.

Love them so much that actually backed their Kickstarter campaign for one of them

called Hip-Hooray Hippo, which like its predecessor was very, very quickly funded.

So Beth and Jeremy and I, we recently sat down, we talked about how we can learn as professionals

to celebrate the wins of other people and how the gospel gives us the resources to do that.

We learned why empathy is so key to mastering any vocational discipline.

We also talked about the specific types of side hustles

or side projects that can actually serve

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