I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

I won't tell you that it's going to be okay.

Well, welcome to another episode of the McCarty selves podcast.

Today we have someone who has had an amazing career and you can actually add amazing author to that as well now. I have a lot of people I know in my orbit who write books and not all of them are good. This one though is good and we will get to that momentarily but

Deborah Lee how are you doing today? I'm good. It's so great to see you and I'm so

honored to be on your show. I'm honored. Thank you. You're taking the time out on the grind as you go through this book

grind.

My too is unique in that to start each episode we have our guest walk us through the

arc of their careers and I know we'll cover this

a bit when we talk about your book but talk to me about your legal career before

joining BT and why do you choose to leave your firm at the time to join the team at BETT?

Well, I went to law school and I hated it.

And I knew I would.

I always wanted to be a fashion designer but my dad wasn't having that and I just mentioned he was an army officer so yeah whatever he said went so I ended up going to law school at Harvard, hated it so much that first year that I applied to the

Kennedy School at Harvard and I thought that would save me because that would give me an out and I could do government service and I was always interested in public policy and helping my community and whatever way I could. So I got a master's in public policy. I graduated in 1980, went to DC to do a clerkship with Barrington Parker Senior, which kind of just fell in my lap. I didn't want a

clerkship because I didn't want to be a lawyer. So I never apply. But a judge I was

working for part time in Boston said I had this judge he's looking for a third clerk why don't you go interview with him so I interviewed I got it so that took me to DC and then I had previously accepted a job with the SEC policy office,

this Securities and Exchange Commission, because I was always told that was one of the best policy offices in government. But I put that on hold while I clerked. And while I clerked, Ronald Reagan one. And that sort of killed my government career.

Quickly, quickly.

I didn't want to go into Reagan administration.

So I decided to go to Step Toin Johnson, which was a firm I had interviewed with earlier in my legal career.

And I said, I'll go there until the Democrats come back.

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