You know I haven't figured it out yet. There's no there really is like no secret sauce to this

But for whatever reason people listen to this podcast

They listen to us talk and I don't get it. I don't know if there's something wrong with them or if there's something wrong with us.

But yeah, I think probably, I don't know.

One of the things behind it that I think makes it enjoyable is there is a serious sense of honesty between the two of us when we talk and I don't think we really care whether or not people like it which is not really a good way to run a

podcast or any sort of show or anything that you're doing like that.

But it was interesting to me, our show will be two weeks out and I'll still get people tagging

us and I'll still be people posting it and we're not, we haven't been advertising it or trying to push it or market any kind of way and it just continues to expand and for that I just want to tell everybody who shares it who it listens to it that thank you, thank you, seriously, thank you, it means a lot.

And I hope that it's a blessing to you.

All it is in one sense or another is just a large counseling session and educational session that Jason has been having with me for about two years now.

So, yeah, and that he's moving on to his, to his own,

basically show, podcasts, what is it, what do we call?

Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, I guess it's a podcast.

I think podcast is still a just a catch-all phrase,

but it's, it's a series of pointed or focused discussions. So ours are kind of unfocused

discussions. So ours are kind of unfocused discussions.

So I kind of a testing ground before you start doing.

Yeah.

So I so I finished a series called Religious not Spiritual on what it means that Christianity is a religion and not a Gnostic spirituality and that one I'm averaging a pretty significant downloads and reads and stuff.

I mean that for me, it surprised me. You know, in the last 30 days I've had 31,000 reads and then

That's not lousy.

It's not lousy.

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