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What is up, everybody?

Happy Monday.

Welcome into an all new episode of the Packaday podcast.

I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. You can find the podcast at Packaday Podcast. I am filled with joy to be joined by Perry Goldstein and of course the one and only Wisco Grant. Grant, Perry. It is wonderful to be chatting with you. How the heck are you guys doing?

Great.

We had real football news, so that made me happy.

I had an NFL network on while I was working from home, like in the background.

And I was, you know, just like doing my thing.

TV's on and like all these news news is coming in.

I was like, this is the best. I miss this.

It's like been a really sad month of like very low, low NFL engagement.

So I'm happy to be back. And now we're just like full swing until the season starts.

I mean like there's going to be very few lulls. That makes me happy.

I'm doing very good. That's the difference between Perry and I. Perry was like finally some real news, whereas a month ago, I just

took the smallest little rumor and then like treated that as real life. And that's how I operate.

That's how I operate. It's like, oh, D.K. McCaff might get traded. Yeah, he's in my mind. He is a Packer now. And I'm going to create that

world and live in it for a couple of days until that comes crashing down. The difference between

when you're full-time sports and when your hobby sports. You only have to focus on the real stuff,

which I envy, but also sometimes it's fun to just live in fantasy land, which I do every time any

players connected

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