Hey, everybody. This is Richard Deich, and welcome to the sports media podcast. My producers are Patrick Antenetti and Sean Sherry. Been off for a couple weeks, but we're back with two excellent guests. First up is a regular James Andrew Miller, Jim Miller, bestselling author of books on CAA, ESPN,

and Saturday Night Live, the host of the Origins podcast.

He comes on to discuss not only what college football moving from fall to spring

or college football not being played this year, the impact that would have on ESPN, and it is significant.

But a move that many of you might not have seen this week, but was very, very big in the sports media world.

And that was Nick Con, the former co-head of television for CAA sports, leaving CAA to take a mega job as the president and chief revenue officer of

WWE. That move has a ton of impact because CAA has a, and Con specifically has a massive

amount of clients that are people that you have watched on TV for many years, such as Kirk

Herb Street and Sage Steel and Mike Greenberg,

Colin Coward. So Miller gets in and talks about the impact of that move. What's going to happen

with the salary structures of sports television, which is a very, very interesting thing.

And just sort of the financials today on what agents may or may not be looking for.

So if you like sort of the business end of sports television, specifically the business end of

talent on sports television, you'll enjoy that conversation.

He's followed by Anson Carter, who is an NBC NHL studio analyst, also, of course, a former NHL player for a decade plus with a number of teams.

Anson, who's an excellent hockey analyst, has a new multi-platform show called Hockey Culture,

and that's highlighting stories of inclusion and diversity and people of color who work in the sport.

And Anson and I discuss that new initiative as well as if the NHL is serious about inclusion

and diversity, how he felt about what Matt Dumba was doing on the defenseman for the

Minnesota Wild.

And then finally, Anson, somebody who's been around in hockey

now for multiple decades, and his views on the hockey media, and whether he thinks the hockey

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