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Hi, everyone. This is Dr. Rishio. I'm here with Rachel, who has read Healthy, Got Healthy,

You two times, apparently. And this really helped her overcome some of her health challenges.

And she was just sharing with me, actually, one thing'll come to in a minute but I just want to put this on the board to make sure that we don't forget about this is she was working with a

functional medicine doctor and they wanted to kind of go right to step three in the book and

Rachel had the good wisdom to say well how about we kind of follow the program And I just want to lead with that because this is

something that I see so many both practitioners and patients making the same mistake, which is,

okay, let's say we had a positive Cbo breath test or a positive stool test for Candido or what have

you. Let's go right to the antimicrobials and really

knock this out, which is understandable. I understand where that desire comes from. But there's a

foundation we lay with the earlier steps in Healthy Gut Healthy U that A may negate the need for those

antimicrobials and also B, if you do work up to and then need the antimicrobials, you'll be able to respond them to the antimicrobials more successfully.

And there is published literature, two studies that I've shown that when people are treated for Cibautics and they're already on probiotics, the antibiotics actually work more effectively.

That's just two studies of a number that support this kind of concept.

So, you know, I don't want to take away too much of your story, Thunder here, Rachel,

but I just, I want to leave with that because if more patients understood that,

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