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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Best of: Vivek Murthy on America’s loneliness epidemic

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Philosophy

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 November 2020

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

At the holidays, I wanted to share some of my favorite episodes of the show with you (we’ll be back next week with brand new episodes). My conversation with Vivek Murthy tops that list, and it has particular force this Thanksgiving, when so many are alone on a day when connection means so much. As US surgeon general from 2014 to 2017, Murthy visited communities across the United States to talk about issues like addiction, obesity, and mental illness. But he found that what Americans wanted to talk to him about the most was loneliness. In a 2018 report by the Kaiser Family Foundation, 22 percent of all adults in the US — almost 60 million Americans — said they often or always felt lonely or socially isolated. Murthy went on to write Together: The Healing Power of Human Connection in a Sometimes Lonely World, and was recently named one of the co-chairs of Joe Biden’s coronavirus task force. Those projects may sound different, but they connect: Coronavirus has made America’s loneliness crisis far worse. Social distancing, while necessary from a public health standpoint, has caused a collapse in social contact among family, friends, and entire communities. And the people most vulnerable to the virus — the elderly, the disabled, the ill — are also unusually likely to suffer from loneliness.  Murthy’s explanation of how loneliness acts on the body is worth the time, all on its own — it’ll change how you see the relationship between social experience and physical health. But the broader message here is deeper: You are not alone in your loneliness. None of us are. And the best thing we can do for our own feeling of isolation is often to help someone else out of the very pit we’re in. Book recommendations: Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch Albom Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsch Dear Madam President by Jennifer Palmieri Credits: Producer/Audio engineer - Jeff Geld Researcher - Roge Karma Please consider making a contribution to Vox to support this show: bit.ly/givepodcasts Your support will help us keep having ambitious conversations about big ideas. New to the show? Want to check out Ezra’s favorite episodes? Check out the Ezra Klein Show beginner’s guide (http://bit.ly/EKSbeginhere) Want to contact the show? Reach out at ezrakleinshow@vox.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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in

1:01.5

the business.

1:06.5

to issues like violence and e-cigarettes and smoking.

1:10.1

But there was not a single issue that I found resonated

1:14.6

as deeply with people,

1:16.6

as the topic of emotional well-being

1:18.9

and more specifically loneliness.

1:21.0

Hello and welcome to Cleanshoff on the Vox Media Podcast Network.

1:36.5

So before we start today, on a re-up episode that I'm pretty excited about,

1:41.4

I have a plan announcement to make, a pre-announcement to make.

1:44.2

Some of you may have heard because it did get announced on Friday that in the new year

1:47.7

I'll be starting at the New York Times, I'll be an opinion columnist there,

1:51.5

I will be hosting an interview show.

1:54.3

That is not happening the second, I'm going to address it more fully

1:57.1

and talk through some of what I've learned here and what I want to say about the amazing time

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