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podcast. Hey everyone, Melinda here. And since the podcast is on break this month, we've decided to dig back into the vault and share some of our favorite and most impactful past conversations with you.

First up, Tim sits down with Dr. Jennifer Bird to unpack what the Bible really says about marriage.

Okay. We're live.

We're going to have fun.

I think so. We're going to have fun.

Okay.

Let me get this intro going so we can hop right into it.

So friends, I just had a good

feeling about this and, and I am honored and pleased to bring you Dr. Jennifer Bird on the podcast.

I'm going to let her introduce herself in a minute, but I would just say before we started

recording, as we were kind of touching base, I was like, yeah, we're going to have, we're going to have a good, good, good time on the podcast. So, Jen, it's great to have you. Thank you so much for making time. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me on. It's a treat. And I'm excited. I'm excited to have this conversation. I'm excited about what you all are doing. So I'm excited to have you. Before we get into the into the nitty gritty, why don't you kind of introduce yourself to the audience? I mean, I'm kind of curious, what is your background? Did you grow up evangelical or Christian and then, you know, explain your work? Sure. Yeah. I grew up Christian, I would say, Methodist, you know, Methodist, kind of middle of the road in terms of that stuff. But in high school, I took kind of a swing more evangelical on my own, and much to my, I think, would say my family's chagrin. And I was involved with a parochurch organization called Young Life, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I was, you know, like a kid in high school,

but then I was a volunteer all four years of college. I went on staff for two years afterwards.

So I had this, yeah, I had this very, for me, I was in a more fundamentalist kind of reading

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