All right, Cat Schneider from Ritual.com is here. She makes vitamins and she does it really well.

And she went out to raise money when she was pregnant. And I've heard from a number of female founders who we've invested in.

That's always an interesting experience.

Tell me how did that go for you?

I feel like I'm always pregnant raising money now but hopefully it's my last

Well you had three kids over a six-year span and it was the same span or the same

six years that you started a company so no degree of difficulty there obviously

no it's become the norm it's become the norm yeah but but I couldn't do it I don't

think or but you did it I mean super impressive but what did the VCs

where's the reaction to you? So it was interesting because I came from the VC

space I came from investing in in companies and I knew a lot of VCs early on and it's interesting a lot of the VCs that I actually went to kind of passed because they didn't want to touch the vitamin space.

And then there were V.C.

One in particular that I had an investor who I knew for a long time

tell me, and I think in a more friendly way like you can't start a company and

and have a family at the same time like trust me.

Wow. So I think yeah you would never say that to a

guy you would send them a one-sy with the VC's logo on it like you would never see your guy like you're having a baby.

I mean, there is some truth that it is challenging to have kids

while being an entrepreneur.

It was challenging.

He was challenging. But that's the... Yeah, but I also don't... Yeah, for me it was it was fuel. It was it was really empowering because I wanted to prove him wrong. But I also would have never started the company, you know, had I not had that experience of being pregnant.

And now, we're thinking of other products as well, being a mom of three over the last five years.

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