Welcome to the program. We spend an awful lot of time on a name, say it, say the name.

Craig Robertson. Robertson apparently armed at the time when the FBI came breaking his

door down. We talked to one of his dear friends, a Utah Valley university professor who says

I can't believe it. He talks about what his wife witnessed and what a neighbor witnessed

and he tells us about the man. But it's complex because the man also was living some sort of,

I don't know, invincible guy life on the internet and was making threats against the president,

which you would expect the FBI to do. Come visit the man, especially of the president, is in town.

But his threats were really over the top and ridiculous because he was going to dress as a bush

and use a rifle to kill the president. Okay, well, he's 300 pounds and he walks with a cane

and he's 75 years old. I don't think that's a good disguise in the first. Why is that fat bush

over there walking with a cane? Was it laziness? Was it intentional? What is the story here?

We take it from every single angle possible. You don't want to miss a second of today's podcast.

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