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You're listening to the best of the odd couple. Victor Wenbenyama struggled again. A celebrity boxing match. That's what I want to see. I'll knock his block off. He only shot 5 of 14 from the field. He had five turnovers. Now here's the big thing. You mentioned he's had two straight games now. We've been struggling a little bit. First five games of the season,

Wemby average, 30, 15, and five blocks a game. He was awesome. They were 5 and 0. They've lost

their last two in these last two games. 14 points on 14 field goal attempts per game,

which is not great.

That's terrible for a guy, nine foot tall.

Five assists and 11 turnovers over these last two.

He's got more turnovers than a bakery.

And yet, Kelvin Washington is not deterred in any way.

Tell us why.

No, and it pains me to say this because anybody knows just as far as basketball preference over the last six, seven years, my guy was Luca. And it still is. Lucas is incredible. He was incredible. No, no, is he or isn't he? You said he still is. What does that mean? He's still my guy. No, no, no. No, I don't have a singular guy. Can I talk? No, one guy. No. Pick one guy. Luca is that guy still.

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