Hello, it's Mike at Saturday. It's the Saturday show. Those two things are highly correlated.

There is in fact a causal relationship between each goes like this. Oh my god, it's Saturday.

Better put up a show. So I was and the shows that we do are one from the week and one from

the vaults. But the one from the week this week is with Heather Cox Richardson, who was

on this week. But it's not something that aired during the show. It didn't air during

a Pasca Plus segment. One could argue that with podcasts, does anything really air? Of course,

they do air buds. But what I did was I came across an item about how she did her research by reading

The New York Times. Doesn't seem impressive, except when I tell you, well, you'll find out.

She read all of The New York Times. It's about a 10 minute conversation. It wasn't exactly

germane to the life and death of our country that we were talking about. It was more about

how she does her job. But I thought it to be a delight. And I thought that we should give it to you.

And then since we are in the realm of US history, I bring you Lafayette. That's I have to say it.

He had the best flow of all the founding fathers. We learned that from the musical about Hamilton.

I think it was also called Hamilton. And Lafayette was the subject of a book by Sarah Val.

The always interesting and interesting to listen to Sarah Val. Sarah, stop by. Not really

virtually, although in that case, it might have been really. In 2015, I bring you that interview

from Lodos many years ago. And also Heather Cox Richardson words that you haven't heard this week

on the Gest. Enjoy.

First we make our habits, then they make us. The English poet, very interesting guy. First

poet, Laurie John Dryden said that or maybe he wrote it or maybe he didn't. But anyway,

it was said to me by the coach, college basketball coach, Shaka Smart. I tell my kids that,

first we make our habits, then they make us, what about when we want to get rid of a habit?

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