Hi it's Mike it's Saturday it's the Saturday show in the middle of a two day or possibly four day weekend the rare weekend that no one is taking is a three day weekend weekend. That doesn't make sense. It's either two or four.

And I was a bartender for a while and I know when garnishing a drink you never use an even number,

so I feel a little out of sorts. Three, three coffee beans in your sambucca Ramana, three olives in your martini, or one, or possibly five, if you want to overwhelm the martini and just make it a chewy olive-based drink that happens to have

some gin or vodka associated with it.

So speaking of why it might be a four-day weekend, you got July 4th.

Independence Day, thus prompting me. four day

thus prompting me to give you some interviews that I've conducted

not with we couldn't land any of them but about the founding fathers

so we have an interview from 2017, still timely in the news, the friendship rivalry between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

That was an interview I conducted with the historian Gordon S. Wood, and then the

cutting edge hip historian Alex Coe wrote a book about George Washington and The Thai

guys, those are the historians who love his monstrous thighs.

It was called You Never Forget Your First, a biography of George Washington in order

Gordon Wood and then Alex Coe to contemplate founding fathers and presidents

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