Hi there, everyone, and happy new year. Welcome to the best people. This week, we're revisiting an episode we recorded back in September with the legendary folk singer, songwriter, and activist Joan Baez. Joan has a spirit that touches the heart of the country, and at 84 years old,

we're still finding her marching in protests, performing in a circus, a real-life circus,

and sharing the gift of her voice. Joan and I spoke about how she sees this moment as compared

to the protests of the 60s and the wrists involved in speaking up both then and now.

So with that, this is the best people,

and this is Joan Baez.

And all my whatever career, I've said that social change cannot happen until somebody's willing to take a risk.

And I believe that.

And I believe it's going to get scarier and scarier to take a risk.

Hi, everyone, and welcome to the Best People podcast.

Unfortunately for us, Best People doesn't begin to capture this week's guest because she's more than that. She's an icon known the world over.

Her lyrics are literally the words that have accompanied everything we associate in our country's

history with justice and change and all things good, but she's part of our

present moment as well. This week's guest on the Best People podcast is Joan Baez. Thank you so much

for being here. It's an honor. Thank you so much for having me. I love everything you've done, but I especially love everything you've said about this moment.

And one thing that I changed immediately is I am never going to call anything unprecedented again.

You stopped me in my tracks when I read that.

And I want to go back and take that word out of everything I've ever said about this administration.

Will you explain, though, why that is no good?

Unprecedented?

Well, because that group of people would love to be unprecedented.

I mean, at every turn, that's a next wave of horrors is unprecedented. So get used

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